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Dani Maulerant
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Posted - 2014.12.18 22:50:03 -
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Eh, dscan immunity is pretty way out there. If anything it makes the two versions of recons much closer to the same as force recons cloak to not appear on scans, while combat recons have a built in effective cloak just long as they're not on grid.
Looking at the curse/pilgrim for instance, Curse seems miles better. Both a neut range and amount (very important), while being effectively cloaked when just simply not on grid. Pilgrim now getting a range bonus but the neuts work at base drain amount as if fitted to a T1 cruiser like they often are anyways, and with only a couple being able to be fit really exacerbates that issue.
I really hoped Pilgrim would shine, as well as force recons in general, but it seems Curse will be the solid go-to one with its Dscan immunity (effectively a cloak), tank, neut amount on top of range. and more highs to fit more neuts that further multiply that capability.
And while probing is 'possible', it's not a reasonable expectation to impose on everyone. |
Dani Maulerant
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Posted - 2014.12.18 23:40:11 -
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As if FW needed any more incentive to stay at the frigate/destroyer meta level in novices and smalls. |
Dani Maulerant
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Posted - 2014.12.19 02:38:18 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:lmbo at all the nerds who refuse to do things in space without perfect intel about everything around them
lol spoken by one with numerous intel channels about what's all around them for 10 jumps in any direction. |
Dani Maulerant
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Posted - 2014.12.19 21:41:56 -
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If this is going forward, then you should also take away a combat recon's ability to Dscan around themselves.
Just like the scan inhibitor deployable.
Same effect, being invisible to dscan, but at a balancing cost that already has precedent. |
Dani Maulerant
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Posted - 2014.12.20 00:58:24 -
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This really won't cause more fights, just more ganks, but then the actual good fights will be fewer and farther between as having to always combat probe (which alone is an issue on several levels from solo needing yet more alts, to who's-going-to-have-probing-duty-in-fleet?) each FW plex, sig, anomaly, etc will really slow pace down more than anything.
And then using third party information like checking all KB's of all pilots in a lowsec system, each new jump, is just not reasonable, which as someone said, in lowsec, neutrals and such are just daily life to us, unlike null where one non-blue in system and word spreads through the cluster. |
Dani Maulerant
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Posted - 2014.12.20 21:07:14 -
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So still no word on what the balancing drawback is for dscan immunity... |
Dani Maulerant
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:46:52 -
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At this point, how about we just use this thread now to post the KM's or at least name characters known to pull this BS, killing solo/FW, and all us sensible people can then add them to a 'dont-warp-to--any-plex-if-in-local' listing. |
Dani Maulerant
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:54:42 -
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FT Diomedes wrote:How is it any different if they had a Falcon? Or any other cloaked ship?
Cloak hulls have a targeting delay. D-scan immune are inta-lock soon as you make visual contact with it. |
Dani Maulerant
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Posted - 2015.01.15 03:57:47 -
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Thorin Matarielle wrote:Pretty much everone does this... I cant mark half of lowsec becuse he did it once or twice. :) This is just lame and I dont say this because i died to them (not yet at least) but they are using a cruiser as bait and 4 recons sitting next to it. If you decide to go in and do a nice cruiser brawl...well...just dont do it. http://i.imgur.com/eLQUuWo.png
^^ Caracal in medium. RIP Brave cruiser pilots. And as I've said earlier, we wanted to go in with two cruisers and they ran away saying: thats too much we cant fight those. SlavaKing << this nerd and his friends cant recall their names. Guess this is his only way to ***** on some kills. As one of my friend have said this today: I can imagine the CCP game design meeting
"what if we take the falcon, make it stronger and remove it from dscan"
"LETS DO IT"These changes are killing solo pvp and im kinda disappointed to see that...
FW already has a major problem of people rarely bringing out anything larger than frigs/dessies on repeat, and this sort of thing just really hammers it more securely in that novices and smalls look more appealing with the added fact of these recons can't enter. Sad to see it be this way, and now staying this way a while longer is even sadder.
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